a thank you and possible tmi [They Say What They Say]

Thank you very much to the anony-mouse who gifted me with the extra paid time. It was such a nice surprise and very much appreciated.

*glomps you, whoever you are*

Okay, girls, I need a little bit of dating advice.

So I've been seeing this guy and while he's nice and all, but I've been a little uncertain about the whole thing even though it has been good to have someone pay me some attention and tell me I'm beautiful and all that.

However, we finally got around to, you know, which was not unexpected and the experience was not entirely unpleasant. So afterward we loll around for a while, watching TV and just hanging out, but we're both kinda wiped after a big night out and since he's got a busy week ahead of him he eventually goes home to get some sleep. I putter around tidying up, etc, and that's when I see it...

Now ladies, if you were a gentleman caller who had just enjoyed some quality time with your lady, would you -

a) Clean up after yourself and make sure that all trash was disposed of in the appropriate receptacle?

or

b) Leave your trash sitting on the bedside table for your lady friend to stumble across unexpectedly, thus rendering her shocked and speechless at the grossness of it?

Just, EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

I hate to be the type of person who would dump a guy for something so petty, but every time I look at my bedside table from now on all I am going to see is carelessly discarded trash, which is not an image anyone want's to deal with.

But now I'm not sure what to do. Say nothing and hope that it never happens again, or try and discreetly inform him that there's a rubbish bin next to the loo for whenever thrash disposal is necessary.

*sigh*

Why are boys so strange?

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OK, yeah, ew. Even if he didn't know where the bin was and was too embarrassed to ask he should've just stuck it in his pocket and disposed of it at home. Just. No.

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I thought he'd flushed it, but then I saw it sitting there...

Not nice. Not nice at all.

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That is always ew, but I know a lot of guys just don't *think* to clean it up afterwards. It just doesn't enter their little man minds.

Man minds are very odd places. I would never do something like that. Just wouldn't happen. Guys are so odd, I often wonder how they survive!

Well, they don't realise they pee on the loo seat and/or floor, either.

Also, they stand in front of the heater with their hands down their pants.

Maybe that second one is just Luka.

Also, they stand in front of the heater with their hands down their pants.

Maybe that second one is just Luka.

My nephew does the same thing. He's only five so it's kinda cute, but if he's still doing when he's 30 then I'll be worried.

Oh that's a definite ewww.... :-(

I was very unimpressed. Not a good thing to do while we're still in the getting-to-know-you stage, not at all.

Definitely not.

My last boyfriend used to shave in my bedroom - all I could think of the whole time was the dust he was spreading across my carpet. My Dad does the same thing in the living room :-(

Then I remembered how, when we were housemates, he used to trim his toenails in the living room while we were watching tv *grimaces* He's a fastidiously clean man, and the cuttings were always binned immediately (as were the...leftovers from our encounters later) but still.

Men are just gross, let's face it. ;-)

To you and me, that's an 'ewwww' - even though the last time I had quality time was in the pre-trash era*, and thus I have never had to deal with the problem. To a boy, I suspect it's not even an issue. It would certainly put me off, but - do his good points outweigh the bad ones and, even if not, is it worth just keeping him around for further quality time?

I am so fastidious that I don't even have bins in the rooms, everything goes straight downstairs and into the kitchen bin and is put in the dustbin in the morning. It's probably as well I don't have to share my living space.

Yay! for getting some, btw. No matter what.

* Wasn't very good at it; didn't enjoy it; never met anyone worth getting over the problem for. It's not a big deal. Now, that's TMI!

There's a bin right next to the loo. I'm not sure how he missed it, unless it suddenly rendered its self invisible or something.

*shakes head*

M'm. I'd say he's definitely not a keeper, then. You could look forward to a future spent picking up his underpants off the floor. And worse.

Anything that is bothering you now is not likely to improve. If you were more invested, even though that was very yucky, it might have been more easily shaken off.

I'm hoping it was just an oversight on his behalf. Either way, not something I want to happen again.

EWW!

Still a bit gross if he didn't want to get up, but if he got up and left it there? Not great.

I'm still not sure what to make of it all. Very, very rude if you ask me.

Definitely gross but I've met a few guys who've have done the same. My ultimate was the guy I had sex with in his car outside my folks house in my early 20s - he threw it out the door and it sat in the gutter for me to notice the next day. Bright red, used condom - pretty hard to miss. What a prize he wasn't.

I dunno that I'd discount a guy for leaving it on the bedside table in a strange house....maybe you're already ambivalent about hims and looking for reasons? But single men do generally have different standards of cleanliness to single women.

Gawd, thank go that one got away on you!

I've only known him for a short while and there's been no commitments from either side, but yeah, I was (am?) a bit ambivalent about him and this hasn't make me any more enthused.

Yeah, that's kind of grody, but hey, boys can be trained. It's easiest at the beginning, when they're motivated. There's very little they won't do if it's going to get them laid. Drop the guy a hint next time, preferably with a little humor, and let him know the reward is a happy bed partner.

I don't think there is going to be a next time. The sex was okay, but he's not a very good kisser. Kissing is very important for me and if I don't enjoy it the relationship really will go nowhere fast.

1. \o/

2. Ewww! One thing to leave trash around your own place, but that's just poor socialisation!

3. Boys are gross and just don't see things the way us girls do. They can be domesticated to an extent, if you're willing to put the effort in, but they'll never be completely perfect companions.

Boys are gross and while they manage to cover it up most days, every now and then they go and do something that reminds you just exactly how yukky they can be.

Bleerk!

Ewwww. And on the first time, too! This strongly suggests that the man was raised by wolves. :P

No boy I've been with has done that, ever, even when he's gotten comfortable enough to leave around things like gum wrappers and dirty dishes.

Fortunately neither of us was very invested in the relationship so he didn't seem too miffed when I broke if off today. I could cope with the constant need to cuddle (sort of) but the whole trash thing left me stone cold :~\

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